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Glenda Canete	Posted - 2008.10.20 12:07:00 - [1] Ok so I am playing for about a week, doing missions training skills. Is there a way to get isk automatically? like stocks ?
Ralara Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.10.20 12:10:00 - [2] You can buy shares in some corporations who pay dividends but you're better off talking on the market forums for that; it's quite a specialisation and not really a "new player" thing. There's no automated way to get isk, no. --
Glenda Canete	Posted - 2008.10.20 12:17:00 - [3] I see ok than i guess i will be doing more missions for a while and sell stuff on the market thnx
Ralara Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.10.20 12:22:00 - [4] Originally by: Glenda Canete I see ok than i guess i will be doing more missions for a while and sell stuff on the market thnx That's pretty much what most of us do :-) what you can then do, is make enough isk from the Market and start trading. That's kinda a "passive" way to get isk; your sell and buy orders can be fulfilled whilst you're not logged in; although realistically they need to be updated at least once or twice a day (sometimes more in busy systems). --
Kobushi OCForums	Posted - 2008.10.20 15:34:00 - [5] there are ways to get some passive income but it usually require a pretty big initial investement in ISK(think a few billions usually) or in time(datacores which require quite a bit of training)
Glenda Canete	Posted - 2008.10.20 15:39:00 - [6] ok cool... what i have than learned is that it is definetly to early to talk about
Ana Vyr Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.10.20 17:45:00 - [7] I was under the impression that research agents provided a means for doing this (provided you don't neeed the resulting datacores for your own T2 research).
Letouk Mernel	Posted - 2008.10.20 18:00:00 - [8] Research agents WILL give you research points every day, which you can use to get datacores which you can then sell for ISK, but people don't consider it because: - the skills required to be able to talk to multiple agents and open multiple research projects cost 10 - 60 million each. - each agent gives out very few points per day, so if you want to make any sort of money, you're pretty much forced to train the skills for multiple, and use 3-4. - it requires relatively high faction standing (which you must grind beforehand) to get the high-quality high-level agents that give good RP / day - the value of datacores is constantly going down, as more and more people accumulate theirs and try to sell them. What was once 700k per is now 100k per, and going down even further. All in all, if you look at time and cash investment to do this, for profit, it's basically easier and more profitable to just mine veldspar an hour per day, by far.
Axearm Thunk'um	Posted - 2008.10.20 18:04:00 - [9] If you are new and haven't started salvaging, i suggest that. Lost more money in salvaging than in the mission bonuses themselves usually. You should be able to find a salvaging tutorial somewhere. (You need the skill salvaging and a salvager, which is a high slot item).
Intense Thinker Minmatar	Posted - 2008.10.20 18:52:00 - [10] Edited by: Intense Thinker on 20/10/2008 18:52:30 Ok, this is what you want to do... find a nice big carebear corp to join and stay with them for about a year so they give you access to the corp hangers and corp wallet... then grab yourself a freighter, take the corp wallet, and empty the hangers! Loads of isk to be made --------------------- It's me! Your lovable forum warrior!!!

Kahega Amielden Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2008.10.20 20:52:00 - [11] there's a lot of other ways to make ISK if missions aren't your thing. As far as passive...Trading is relatively passive. If you update your orders and haul stuff around every once in awhile you will have a decent flow of ISK coming in. Originally by: Catharacta My CNR runs on salvager tears.
Dreadchain Gallente Freelancing Corp Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2008.10.20 21:36:00 - [12] Originally by: Intense Thinker Edited by: Intense Thinker on 20/10/2008 18:52:30 Ok, this is what you want to do... find a nice big carebear corp to join and stay with them for about a year so they give you access to the corp hangers and corp wallet... then grab yourself a freighter, take the corp wallet, and empty the hangers! Loads of isk to be made Im trying to figure out whether this is an advice towards scamming or an elaborate plan to ruin any possibility of the OP getting into a corp :P
Tranka Verrane Caldari Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2008.10.21 00:14:00 - [13] Originally by: Intense Thinker Edited by: Intense Thinker on 20/10/2008 18:52:30 Ok, this is what you want to do... find a nice big carebear corp to join and stay with them for about a year so they give you access to the corp hangers and corp wallet... then grab yourself a freighter, take the corp wallet, and empty the hangers! Loads of isk to be made There are big carebear corps? Ingame: Channels&Mailing lists>Channels>Join>PVE>OK
Baka Lakadaka Gallente Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2008.10.21 01:31:00 - [14] It's never too early to start trading. I started out one account with tens of thousands of ISK and turned that into hundreds of thousands, then turned that into millions, then......well you get the picture. It was slow at first, but it builds exponentially. You don't need billions in capital to start trading. ______________________ Isn't it time you learned to fight back? Agony Unleashed Home of the PvP University. Now Recruiting.
Intense Thinker Minmatar	Posted - 2008.10.21 04:02:00 - [15] Originally by: Tranka Verrane Originally by: Intense Thinker Edited by: Intense Thinker on 20/10/2008 18:52:30 Ok, this is what you want to do... find a nice big carebear corp to join and stay with them for about a year so they give you access to the corp hangers and corp wallet... then grab yourself a freighter, take the corp wallet, and empty the hangers! Loads of isk to be made There are big carebear corps? Well, there are big pirate corps so I'm assuming there's one --------------------- It's me! Your lovable forum warrior!!!
Salpad Caldari Carebears with Attitude	Posted - 2008.10.21 22:14:00 - [16] Originally by: Glenda Canete Ok so I am playing for about a week, doing missions training skills. Is there a way to get isk automatically? like stocks ? Well, the stock/bond market is not easy to figure out... Every time someone posts an IPO, e.g. an offer to sell shares or bonds against a more or less specific monthly or weekly interest rate, people flock to it like lemmings, without any scepticism or patience, e.g. to demand that an "audit" is done. I did invest 300M ISK in 3 different IPOs in June, and they all turned out to be quite profitable good, but to be honest, that was sheer luck on my behalf. I could very easily have ended up losing some of my ISK, or perhaps even all of them. A better thing to do, than risk shares or bonds, might be to look at the banks in EVE. Currently I am aware of two in-game banks. EBank is the biggest and most well known, but it pays a very low interst rate of 1.5% per month (old customers get a better rate of 3%, but as far as I know there are no plans to ever offer such a "princely" rate to new customers. Basically people like you and I missed the bus, and there ain't ever gonna be a new one). Dynasty Bank is smaller and a lot sexier, and depending on how long you're willing to tie up your ISK, you can earn up to 10% in monthly interst. I should mention, though, that I work as PR Manager for Dynasty Bank, so it is basically my job to inform you that we exist. If you want more information about Dynasty Bank, you can visit our website at http://bank.dyco-eve.com/ , or join the in-game chat channel "DBank", or write a post in the Market Discussion forum. Also, for good measure, here is the URL to EBank: http://www.eve-bank.net/, although I'm confident that you'll find our interest rates much more attractive. -- Salpad
Liz Laser	Posted - 2008.10.21 23:42:00 - [17] Edited by: Liz Laser on 21/10/2008 23:42:40 Would moon mining qualify? Sounds like a huge investment in isk and time to establish and it could get destroyed, from what I understand. Could someone more knowledgeable than me comment?
Baka Lakadaka Gallente Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2008.10.22 02:19:00 - [18] Originally by: Liz Laser Edited by: Liz Laser on 21/10/2008 23:42:40 Would moon mining qualify? Sounds like a huge investment in isk and time to establish and it could get destroyed, from what I understand. Could someone more knowledgeable than me comment? Moon mining is a semi-passive income. You need to fuel your POS and collect the materials. Generally it's better to react materials and sell those products as it's more profitable. Finding the right moon-minerals to react, finding relatively safe space in 0.3 security or lower and the large investment cost are just 3 of the hurdles to get over. You'll need some sort of large ship as well (jump freighters are almost perfect, but an industrial could do it). So it's not really a solo-newbie setup, more likely a small corp setup as a minimum, although it is possible to run these as a solo player. ______________________ Isn't it time you learned to fight back? Agony Unleashed Home of the PvP University. Now Recruiting.
RaTTuS BIG Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2008.10.22 08:54:00 - [19] remember shares can go down as well as up however - training Research \| Research Project management and some science skills will get you some passive income -- BIG Lottery, BIG Deal, InEve
Vladimir Ilych Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.10.22 11:27:00 - [20] As others have said the nearest thing to automated ISK is using research agents to gain datacores. Big initial investment in skill points and time to get the rep to use the agents. Once this is done harvest the cores every month or so. Then sell on market.

Yuu Sato Gallente	Posted - 2008.10.22 18:21:00 - [21] Buy GTC, sell GTC, = ISK!
Salpad Caldari Carebears with Attitude	Posted - 2008.10.25 04:31:00 - [22] Originally by: Yuu Sato Buy GTC, sell GTC, = ISK! Better yet, buy GTC, sell GTC, deposit the ISK in a bank, then take out only part of the interest you earn, and re-invest the rest in the bank. -- Salpad
Lisento Slaven Amarr The Drekla Consortium	Posted - 2008.10.25 16:53:00 - [23] Create a corporation and tax its members. It also helps if you actually run the corporation and do things to make it look legit. In fact, you might actually be legit! --- Put in space whales!
Joey Meow MURAKAMI INDUSTRIES	Posted - 2008.10.25 18:08:00 - [24] I suggest to train yourself a science character, collect datacores from agent, thats your "automatic" isk.
Voxis	Posted - 2008.10.25 18:09:00 - [25] Originally by: Vladimir Ilych As others have said the nearest thing to automated ISK is using research agents to gain datacores. Big initial investment in skill points and time to get the rep to use the agents. Once this is done harvest the cores every month or so. Then sell on market. Already been said. he.he... he...
Kephael Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.10.25 23:40:00 - [26] Edited by: Kephael on 25/10/2008 23:40:25 Originally by: Salpad Edited by: Salpad on 21/10/2008 22:17:06 Originally by: Glenda Canete Ok so I am playing for about a week, doing missions training skills. Is there a way to get isk automatically? like stocks ? Well, the stock/bond market is not easy to figure out... Every time someone posts an IPO, e.g. an offer to sell shares or bonds against a more or less specific monthly or weekly interest rate, people flock to it like lemmings, without any scepticism or patience, e.g. to demand that an "audit" is done. I did invest 300M ISK in 3 different IPOs in June, and they all turned out to be quite profitable good, but to be honest, that was sheer luck on my behalf. I could very easily have ended up losing some of my ISK, or perhaps even all of them. A better thing to do, than risk shares or bonds, might be to look at the banks in EVE. Currently I am aware of two in-game banks. EBank is the biggest and most well known, but it pays a very low interst rate of 1.5% per month (old customers get a better rate of 3%, but as far as I know there are no plans to ever offer such a "princely" rate to new customers. Basically people like you and I missed the bus, and there ain't ever gonna be a new one). Dynasty Bank is smaller and a lot sexier, and depending on how long you're willing to tie up your ISK, you can earn up to 10% in monthly interst. I should mention, though, that I work as PR Manager for Dynasty Bank, so it is basically my job to inform you that we exist. If you want more information about Dynasty Bank, you can visit our website at Dynasty Bank , or join the in-game chat channel "DBank", or write a post in the Market Discussion forum. Also, for good measure, here is the URL to EBank: EBank, although I'm confident that you'll find our interest rates much more attractive. edit: fixing my URLs so that they actually work. Hey Salpad, I don't really have anything to spend my isk on as I just finished pimping out my CNR. I'm interested in investing 1 Billion Isk with you guys but I'd like to see some reports first. The reports area on your website doesn't seem to be working properly.
Salpad Caldari Carebears with Attitude	Posted - 2008.10.26 00:32:00 - [27] Originally by: Kephael Hey Salpad, I don't really have anything to spend my isk on as I just finished pimping out my CNR. I'm interested in investing 1 Billion Isk with you guys but I'd like to see some reports first. The reports area on your website doesn't seem to be working properly. Are you sure? After you click on the reports tab, you need to click on a month in which we've been active. There's no report for January 2008 because IIRC, we weren't active until February so that's the first month. Also, the last months of 2008, and all months of 2009, are empty, since we haven't created those reports yet. Try starting with the Feb 2008 report: http://bank.dyco-eve.com/reports/2008/feb.php Then March 2008: http://bank.dyco-eve.com/reports/2008/feb.php Then work your way forward... Once you're satisfied that we're a serious business, and that our money guys (Iknota, Manalapan and Exec ORder) knows what they're doing (and that they know what I'm doing, or at least that they have a vague idea about what it is they're paying me a salary for), just send ISK to one of the tellers (Iknota or Manalapan), but remember that there's a deposit limit of 500M ISK per month for personal accounts. For that reason, you might want to consider making your final decision no later than the 31st of October, since that way, you'll be able to deposit your final 500M ISK on the 1st of November. If you hesitate until this month is over, you won't be able to shift your last 500M ISK into the bank until December comes around. Then again, it's your money, and ISK should be taken seriously. Perhaps it is wrong of me to tell you to hurry, in this fashion. -- Salpad
Kephael Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.10.26 00:36:00 - [28] Edited by: Kephael on 26/10/2008 00:38:38 Originally by: Salpad Originally by: Kephael Hey Salpad, I don't really have anything to spend my isk on as I just finished pimping out my CNR. I'm interested in investing 1 Billion Isk with you guys but I'd like to see some reports first. The reports area on your website doesn't seem to be working properly. Are you sure? After you click on the reports tab, you need to click on a month in which we've been active. There's no report for January 2008 because IIRC, we weren't active until February so that's the first month. Also, the last months of 2008, and all months of 2009, are empty, since we haven't created those reports yet. Try starting with the Feb 2008 report: http://bank.dyco-eve.com/reports/2008/feb.php Then March 2008: http://bank.dyco-eve.com/reports/2008/feb.php Then work your way forward... Once you're satisfied that we're a serious business, and that our money guys (Iknota, Manalapan and Exec ORder) knows what they're doing (and that they know what I'm doing, or at least that they have a vague idea about what it is they're paying me a salary for), just send ISK to one of the tellers (Iknota or Manalapan), but remember that there's a deposit limit of 500M ISK per month for personal accounts. For that reason, you might want to consider making your final decision no later than the 31st of October, since that way, you'll be able to deposit your final 500M ISK on the 1st of November. If you hesitate until this month is over, you won't be able to shift your last 500M ISK into the bank until December comes around. Then again, it's your money, and ISK should be taken seriously. Perhaps it is wrong of me to tell you to hurry, in this fashion. I believe I was attempting to view reports in 2009, that's why nothing came up. I was looking into a CD, I assume I'm not capped at entering 500m into a CD each month?
Forestte	Posted - 2008.10.26 11:43:00 - [29] Just a note of warning: One of the biggest scams of all time involved a banking/investing type scenario. It was beautifully executed over a very long period of time and involved lots of supporting documentation and reviews and included a well put together web site. At the end of the day it made around 700 billion isk for the scammer. Look up EVE intergalactic bank. Remember in EVE, trust NO ONE!
Salpad Caldari Carebears with Attitude	Posted - 2008.10.26 19:49:00 - [30] Originally by: Kephael I believe I was attempting to view reports in 2009, that's why nothing came up. I was looking into a CD, I assume I'm not capped at entering 500m into a CD each month? You assume correctly. Once your ISK are in the bank, you can make CDs of any size. Also there's no per-month withdrawal limit.



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